VSI WAR-65

Good time of day.
I am representative of the VSI IL-2 virtual pilots school. Not long time ago we started an online-war IL-2 project based on DCG by Lowengrin.
Briefly about it. In this project we are trying to simulate WW2 air war on Eastern Front as close to the reality as possible. Attack aircraft may (and must) destroy enemy troops on frontline and enemy reinforcements on the way to front, thus reducing enemy's ability to fight and assisting in moving frontline to own side advantage. Fighter aircraft may (and must) provide cover for own attack aircraft and intercept enemy attack aircraft, thus helping own ground troops to survive and to hold the frontline.
We have some russian-speaking people participating in our project since it start, and more people are coming. Now we want to invite some people of English-speaking community to take part in our project.

School of virtual pilots VSI Continues the project VSI WAR based on DCG by Lowengrin.

The theatre of Operations will be transferred to the territory of Cuban, USSR, 01.06.1942 year!

IP 195.138.198.231
IP il2.in.ua
Port: 21000
Current version 4.08

Check out statistics here if you want:
Stats

Planeset:

[color=red]Red[/color]
I-16 -24
Yak-1,Yak-7b
Lagg-3-29
IL-2 Series3(41y),IL-2 field modification(41y)
Pe-2 (Series 83, 110 )
Since November 42
+Yak-1b, Yak-7b, Yak-9, Lagg -3 -35
+ Il- 2М
+ А-20

[color=blue]
Blue[/color]
Bf-109E-7/B
Вf-109 F2
Вf-109 F4
Ju-87 D2 (B)
Ju-88
Вf-110G
He-111 Н2,Н6
IAR-81a
Since November 42
+Вf-109 G2.

Aircraft will be upgraded according to front line promotion and development of operations.

Briefly about rules of the project:
- It is forbidden to fly for both sides on the same map.
- Deliberately flying for the opposite side with aim to destroy as many aircraft or ground targets of opposite side as possible (by dropping bombs under own aircraft immediately after spawning on the airfield, for example) is strictly forbidden. Whose who will try to do something like this will be banned for a very long period of time.
- Vulching is permitted without limitations.
- Paratroopers shooting is permitted without limitations.
- Lives limit per mission - 3.

Basic info about "how it works":
Aircraft losses are replenished once per week by 4 wings (that's it, if your side will lose more than 4 wings of aircraft per week, it will have no planes to fly one beautiful day ).
Destroyed bridges will be fixed in 4 days period.
More details
Question and answers
Make offers to make project better

Due to weak Luftwaffe resistance to massive VVS offensive strikes Germans were pushed back on Crimean territory. Frontline is now on border between Kerch and Crimean peninsulas, and heavy fighting goes on. Luftwaffe and VVS gathered all availaible forces to fight for air superiority and support ground troops. The war continues. Who will prevail?

Last changes in the project.
New ground targets are added

Very interesting, wing-vo. How do you find Lowengrin's DCG in your system compared to what such a solid online war system like NULLWAR offers?

Well, NULLWAR engine is better when it comes to different limitations of aircraft and ordnace distribution among players (according to their rank). But for now we don't want to add rank limitations(everybody's eqal , nobody have to fly scrappy airplanes just because he\she is new player on our server).
Besides that, NULLWAR engine permits some ground war control by players, such as setting general strategy (attack/defence) and so on. We are concentrating on the air war, leaving ground control for DCG. Sometimes it generates something a bit strange, but real-world generals did make errors too . In general we think what ground war on our server is comparable with that of NULLWAR.
We are trying to make our project fully real-time (with day/night cycle), but for now it's not done due to problems with DCG.
Since our project was started not long ago, determining exact values of some parameters (such as ground and air units quantity and replenish rates, number of player "lives" per mission etc) is still in progress. Sometimes different bugs appear due to incorrect DCG settings and it's bugs, but we generaly fixing them quickly.

Thanks, wing-vo. Good luck, it sounds like you`re moving in the right direction. It took years of nullwar to become what it is.

Hi ,
Is the server registered on HyperLobby?

Hi!

Last changes of a front line

Some more info about us.
Limits
1. Live limit. For now it is 3 lives per mission (1 real day).
2. Planeset. It is mostly historical, thought balanced a little.
3. Side. You have to fly for one side in single operation. But you are permitted to switch side on next operation.

Frontline is moved by armored units. So, if where are no armor units near frontline, frontline will not be moved. So, attack aircraft have primary objective of attacking enemy armor (to assist own armor to move frontline). Fighter aircraft have primary objective of protecting own armor against enemy attacks. And bomber aircraft have primary objective of bombing enemy bridges(they will stay destroyed for 4 days) and supply columns in 15-20 km range from frontline to prevent reinforcement of enemy's frontline units. So, if both sides have their frontline armor destroyed, frontline won't be moved until reinforcements arrival to red or blue.

FAQ:
Q: Nothing to bomb, all ground targets are destroyed
A: We are trying to simulate real war, but of course not 100% historically accurate. War is going on in real time, meaning 1 virtual day = 1 real day. Map restart is on 18:00 local time every day. This means which generator puts new ground targets and moves frontline according to the summary of actions of passed day (destroyed planes and ground targets). So, "all ground targets are destroyed" is a normal situation cause war is going on and units may be lost due to attacks of the enemy. At 18:00 targets will be recreated according to a new situation on map.
Q: Where are red units on blue part of map, are they lost they way or something?
A: Generator is moving frontline, but sometimes it doesn't moves ground targets according to new frontline position. In 1-2 days blue units will be moved to the area, and red units will be destroyed. Or you can destroy them yourself .
For example, luftwaffe field near Anapa was empty yesterday before map restart, AAA was placed where after restart, and maybe today airplanes will be placed where as well.
Q: Briefing is not displayed, only info about previous events availaible.
A: Is is ok. Briefing will be displayed after you will choose your plane. There will be no direct target for mission, only sectors where active fighting goes on will be listed. You can also use <target console command.

Wing-vo, I can see you are trying to establish a balanced system of what is technically available in the current features, reasonable and flexible players assignment and a decent correlation with realistic flow. I hope DCG fits into this system very well, but it is still dynamic, irregularities (if any) are understandable.

News from a front line.
Red army has pressed dark blue armies deep into peninsulas...

That's true.
We examined features of DCG and desided what it will fit well for the purpose of imitating ww2 in our server. With time going we understanding "how-it-works" better, and adding new features to our project. But where are some problems with DCG which we cannot solve ourselves.
For example, we still cannot make game truly real-time. We tried to set time on our server to GMT -8:00 (so what 8:00 in server would be at 18:00 in Ukraine) and let time on server flow in real-time scale. But for unknown reasons generator always set time according to server's time. So we had to set fixed time on server for now.
Another example, we want to add "search-and-rescue" downed pilots feature, but as far as we know it is impossible.
But in the whole, DCG fits well for our purposes, letting all type of aircrafts (attack,fighter,bomber) combine forces to achieve victory.
Still, we hope what DCG bugs will be fixed, thus helping us to make project better.
Best regards, VSI-WAR team.

Welcome!

Wing-vo, thanks for the response, have just seen your PM. Unfortunately the system does not send notifictiations to some reason. So pls don't get it as if I lost interest from my side.

Today is our Independendence Day!!!!
Hooray!!!
VSI school of pilots is celebrate!!! :P

We wish all of you:

Never forget a day in your life.
Good days give you happiness
Bad days give you experiences
Both are essential to life.
Keep going...
Happiness keeps you sweet
Trials keep you strong.
Sorrows keep you human
Failures keep you humble
Success keeps you glowing,
But only God keeps going!!!

FL for to day!

Armies dark blue lose the positions....

This is a great subject but alas it is so hard to follow what is going on in Russian..

http://vsi.org.ua/forum/viewforum.php?f=22

Development of VSI WAR project goes on.
First steps was Crimea41 map and to test DCG and check what we can do using it. When step 2 was made - Cuban42 map. We desided what it will be good to use most realistic planeset possible. However, frontline position will not be realistic, it will be moved according to player's activity. No we doing step 3, which we called VSI WAR - 65, meaning what each real day corresponds to WW2 day (real date - 65 years). So, today it is Semptember, 03 1942 on our server. Theatre of operations is Cuban.

To be continued.

Comment:
After heavy fighting German Army was able to concentrate armored strike force and start major offensive operation in Crimea. Air operations were very limited, due to poor weather. Red army suffered heavy losses and was driven back to Cuban.

September,1st,1942. Germany offensive in Cuban begins.

05.09.1942
Kuban'

At us in a command updating!!!
The authoritative map maker has joined us!

From 20.09.2007 we expect up grate in the project on ground and defensive positions! Now attack of air stations will be rather not a simple problem!

Good info and screenshots, wing-vo. Make me wanting to blow off the dust from IL-2 and join your server. Now these trenches should be visible very well even from 8-9K m altitude. Also good should you dare to dive on them from 3K, or just to avoid them all the same.

VSI WAR news. Starting from 15.09.2007 we plan to increase AAA protection of airfields and ground units significantly. So, command work will be required to efficiently attack ground targets. This will make project more "historical" and, as we hope, more interesting.
We are still waiting for the news about new DGen releases, if any are planned. First of all we want "real time" bug fixed, since we want to use real time feature in our project.
Best regards, VSI team.

Did you mention first you were using DCG by Lowengrin?

Absolutely truly!:)
Simply we have enriched a map with ground objects, stationary artillery, ААА is creates an atmosphere of real war.

NEWS!
Air stations are covered and is now more serious!

Stalingrad map 1942-1943

20.10.1942!
Kuban!
the front lines began slowly, but certain to advance to Novorosiysku...

On forum is created subject, where you may see picture of the hostilities, which occurs on VSI WAR -65
P.S. Regrettably branch in russian language...
P.P.S.However this will not disturb to consider the pictures combat action!
P.P.P.S. If you want something ask,ask!

S! Wing-vo.

Sounds excellent. I notified my squad (we're mostly a VVS ground attack and bomber outfit) about this project and wait for their opinion now. I'd personally like to participate at the earliest moment however.

Thank you for informing us, and keep up the good work guys

I thank you for so high praise of our project VSI WAR-65.
Let's wait for your visit. Do not forget, that y you there are only three attempts for flights...;)
Yesterday red armies at last have set  in motion the Front line. Now it, the Front line, goes to Kerch.:)
If and will proceed, soon we shall come to Stalingradu 1942-1943.

November...
Began the active combat actions in region Stalingrada...
On Kubani as before no uncouplings: line of the front качелями goes that to Anape then to Kerchi....

"Thursday on November 19 1942, 7 hours morning - begin operations <Uranus>. The Dense fog and snow. Because of non-flying weather support with air not available. "

03/11/1942
Kubani...

....Fighting on Kubani last...

The Theatre of the HOSTILITIES is carried under Stalingrad... Exactly here turn round the following battles....
Operation Uranus

the November 19 1942 began approach to Red Army within the framework of operation "Uranus" .


P.S. start at evening 19:00

Dear friends!
Since yesterday works training port VSI, il2.in.ua:21001 Map "Gulf of Finland"
There are big number of aerodromes for performing the different tasks.

The VSI WAR -65 Project does not put into action yet ... the technical problems....:(

As before we search for a possibility to start our Project before New Year comes.

Welcome.

Friends!
Today 18.12.2007
Whith the great help of our friend Tzuk, and Sanctor, our project VSI WAR-65 has started again.
We ask to not criticize strongly a map as we used the best efforts for start of the project... It was necessary to sacrifice much...

Yours faithfully,
grun, Yariy, Sanctor, Tzuk, ~Wing-VO~
And thanks a lot to everyone who participated in start and creation of the project and directly created maps of project VSI WAR-65
Borneo, Technic, SAS from Kiev, Tango, AndreyK
Welcome!
http://www.vsi.org.ua

Stalingrad.
20/12/1942
skrin's

Merry Xmas & Happy New Year

Motion[url="http://vsi.org.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18168#18168"] FL[/url] for the last 10 days turned out to be more active...
Active blows red troopses have rejected the blue troops on several kilometers on northwest from Stalingrad...

Fighting last!...

01/01/1943


P.S. Regrettably in project, as always, not enough blue pilots....

P.P.S. We created the branch in English...
As soon as appear the questions, we answer! )))

Small new year's gift for all pilot from vsi

HEPPY NEW YEAR!

Yesterday we celebrated birth day VSI
Welcome to VSI!

12.01.2008 (1943)
Stalingrad



We Invite the blue pilot to try their own strengths in project VSI WAR -65
There is thumbnail sketch of the rules of the play.
We recommend to get acquainted.

http://www.vsi.org.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19385#19385

Hi!
To us one year!
One year ago we have created a forum, and some time later school of pilots.
http://vsi.org.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19729#19729

The Friends!

Announcement

On server il2.in.ua:2100 now we have put the registration.
About this need I spoke long ago. But presently we put this into practice.

Before the beginning of the flight in The VSI WAR -65 project you have to pass the registration of your pilot with chosen side for which you will fly.

Hereinafter, you may be registered on forum www.vsi.org.ua and tax application for enrolment in staff chosen by you side for discussing flight and planning combat action.

Changing the password and registration.

If you already flew earlier on our server, that recommends to change its current password since it presently corresponds to the call sign under which you fly on VSI WAR-65.

You necessary to pass the registration on page of the statistics http://il2.in.ua/stats/index.php?navigation=static/reg/index.html and change your password.

Entering the password under included profile of the player:

Enter on server il2.in.ua:21000 with specified at registrations call sign;
choose the side, for which you were registered;
in window of chat you enter the following symbols: <logon<pass , where pass it's password, which you have indicated at registrations of the pilot;
create in chat channel Server and send the password through this channel (this channel is not public and your password nobody will see);
If you not have faithfully indicated the password, that you in chat receive the message: "Password not faithfull". If your password is correct the Server will confirm this by message: "Password is Accepted".

If you did not enter the password, that you now and then in chat will receive the message "Enter the password" and in an effort to fly without entering correct password, you will be removed from the Server.

If you have finished the procedure of entering the password you may proceed with flight!
Good luck to all and welcome!

Respectfully yours,
VSI.ORG

02/02/1943 STALINGRAD

The Red army by massive efforts have displaced blue army on southeast from Stalingrad and has promoted FL!!!

The Blue troops as before hold in Nizhniy Chir and Kalatch.

The Arrival of the reinforcements is difficalt... many bridges are damaged. The Technical crews by titanic effort raise the bridges during the day, but systematic raids storm trooper reduce their efforts to zero!

All main resistance was carried in air where power ВВС РККА and Luftwaffe fought for full mastery midair.

The War...

04/02/1943
STALINGRAD

That Nullwar system looks interesting... a modified Bellum War system, yes? Any chance there's a distribution of the Nullwar system available in English?

Greetings!
It DCG http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php Lowengrin
As this program works is possible to esteem for it at a forum and as our project works is described in the first posts...:)

Welcom to VSI!

I'm familiar with DCG, my question is more related to how you managed to work a web-based back-end for it. I'm not a computer science guy, so creating web code to interact with DCG is beyond my understanding. Apparently you folks have conquered the coding... and I'd very much like to see how.

I don't mean to take any players away from VSI. In fact I'd like to fly a few missions with you folks to see how it all works. I must admit my end goal is to duplicate what you've done for my own squad's events.

DCG+Commander
Program DCG is capable to work and in online to.
We have combined work DCG + GT Commander.
Welcome to us on a forum. So you can receive the answer to your question much more likely.

http://vsi.org.ua/forum/viewforum.php?f=22

S

http://il2.in.ua/stats/

New map, Kuban-43, has started!
Welcome to VSI WAR -65

In VSI WAR -65 Project have occurred some changes.
Have added the function of the real time (change day-night) time correction - 9 from real (+2 GMT).


Have added the function of the weather change conditions.


Have occurred change on available weapons.

Prohibited:
RP (the reactive projectiles) on fighter, kinderwood on LAGG, MK108 and BK3,7 on BF 109, 500 kgs bombs on BF 109 and hanging tanks on fighter.

In the same way have renewed pattern of the current Kuban map of February -July1943.

Remain:
1. FL on the current term.
2. The nomenclature of available planes.

Updating:
1. Searchlights
2. AAA
3. Overland technick
4. +IAR-81c, MC-205
5. Surprises.

Looks interesting.

I couldn't find a Rules section in English though. Is there one?

Briefly about rules of the project:

- It is forbidden to fly for both sides on the same map.
- Deliberately flying for the opposite side with aim to destroy as many aircraft or ground targets of opposite side as possible (by dropping bombs under own aircraft immediately after spawning on the airfield, for example) is strictly forbidden. Whose who will try to do something like this will be banned for a very long period of time.
- Vulching is permitted without limitations.
- Paratroopers shooting is permitted without limitations.
- Lives limit per mission - 3(3/8 hawer)

News on a project

VSI WAR -65

VSI WAR -65

News



P.S. On a server check CRT=2 included.

Battle of Kursk 05.07.1943
The Battle of Kursk (Russian: Курская битва) refers to a series of German and Soviet operations which, for Wehrmacht's OKH, were a part of the strategic Operation Citadel Offensive (German: Unternehmen Zitadelle); it was one of the major strategic operations on the Eastern Front of World War II. It was also the last German blitzkrieg offensive in the east executed by the German forces on a strategic scale during the war, with the hope of another great encirclement of Red Army forces. The operations, which included the famous battle at Prokhorovka, remains both the largest series of armored operations and the most costly single day of aerial warfare to date.

Kursk 1943

Attack Bf 110G

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Pz. IV

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News…

News
15/07/1943

Welcome to VSI WAR -65

New server, new map.
The Kiev campaign 1943-1944.
1-st/Chernigov-Pripjatskaja operation

New IP: 92.249.120.57
:21000



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Hi all!

Our server/project VSI WAR-65 has received new base, a platform. Now ping should be stable. Have begun work on a new platform with Kiev map.
We plan to spend some campaigns:
• Chernigov-Pripjat campaign on August, 26th - on September, 30th 1943 (because of a stop of a server campaign we will prolong till October, 25-30th),
• the Kiev offensive campaign, the Kiev defensive campaign on November, 3rd-23 December,
• Zhitomir-Berdichev campaign on December, 24th 1943 — on January, 14th 1944,
• Korsun-Shevchenkovsk campaign on January, 24th February 1944.

On a new server it is necessary to pass new [url=http://vsi.org.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?t=766
]registration[/url].

I wish to remind, server options full real.
It is included CRT=2

Welcome all and good luck!
Questions and answers at a forum in an English-speaking branch.

01.10.1943

RKKA assault.
From 29.09 to 30.09 Nejin and Vereteevka were completely taken by RKKA forces.
Vereteevka airfield is under heavy artillery fire, so luftwaffe is unable to airstrike Nejin.
Main forces of lufwaffe are concentrated at Anisovo airfield, from which reinforcements and supplies are shipped to Veresoch, Kulikovka.
From wehrmaht base at Berezna tank reinforcements are shipped to frontline, keeping it near RKKA airfield Kruchiloch.
Main RKKA strike force concentrated at Priluki and Ichne, small parts of it are transferring to Nejin.

LENINGRAD 1944

10.01.1944
Campaign start

total slaughter set for the germans, i'd say throw in some mig3s, p40 field mod, hurri field mod and p39 to even up the planeset.. g2 is still the best of them all. and would make it a little more even for both sides.

Hi to all!


I suggest to familiarise with the concept of VSI WAR-65 project.

1. Project VSI WAR-65 is constructed on the concept of a reconstruction of historical fights in territory of the USSR and Europe.

2. In the project the basic vector is historical reliability of planes which is took part in operations in territory of the USSR and Europe.

3. Project VSI WAR-65 is not build on game balance, but on established facts (presence or absence of planes, technics on concrete territory)

4. The time factor is (full 24 hours) is the second concept of the project. Reproduction of events in territory of the USSR and Europe 65 years ago.


It is the list of planes of mission Leningrad 1944th

Luftwaffe:

• Bf-109G-2 - 32
  Bf-109G-6 - 20
  FW-190A-4 - 16
  FW-190A-5 - 32
  FW-190A-6 - 32
  B-239 - 16
  Bf-110G-2 - 16
  Ju-87D-5 - 32
  He-111H-6 - 20
  JU-88A-4 - 20

USSR

• La-5F - 40
  Yak-1B - 22
  Yak-7B - 22
  Yak-9D - 22
  Yak-9T - 16
  HurricaneMkIIc - 10
  P-40M - 10
  P-40E M-105 - 10
  Il-2M - 22
  Il-2 tipe3 - 22
  A-20G - 16
  Pe-2 359 - 32
  B-25- 11

Parity of the parties :

• 148 / 152 Fighters
  48 / 60 Attack planes
  40 / 43 Bombers

Total 236 / 255.