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#2039429 - 10/05/05 07:38 PM
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Polak,
E-Mail Me at: vlkb331@tds.net
I'll give You the full scoop.
SEMPER FI!
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#2039430 - 10/05/05 08:53 PM
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First, thanks KB for reply. Here is little something which can help us to make those pesky new airfields. The concept is this: to use FS scenery tool to place SF:P1 standard and custom objects on the background picture which then can be used to build roads and taxiways in Max. The program is: FSSC (Flight Sim Scenery Creator) freeware available here: web page Here I have already created the template with all Stock SF:P1 objects. I can use them by copy it and paste in nearly unlimited quantity. The footprint is needed to see if the object is fitting the background - the footprint can be shown "as is" in this program so bunching up and ovelaping hangars and barracks can be easily avoided. See .... Hangar 2 fits perfectly, but Hangar3 not. So new model maybe needs to be made for this purpose or better fit searched. Eventually when all is done thext file is produced as an output of the process:
TEXT OUTPUT FROM FSSC PROGRAM:
[Macro]
Name=Target[xxx].Type=Hangar2
X=-1002.15
Y=-2000.6
Rotation=270
File=D:\Leung Software\FS Scenery Creator\Macros\PARKING.API
V1=10000
V2=100
Param0=200
Param1=200
[Macro]
Name=Target[xxx].Type=Hangar3
X=-722.15
Y=-1312.6
Rotation=.1
File=D:\Leung Software\FS Scenery Creator\Macros\PARKING.API
V1=10000
V2=100
Param0=100
Param1=200
*************************************************
ALTERED TEXT OUTPUT FROM FSSC PROGRAM TO CONFORM SF:P1 TARGET.INI:
delete word [Macro] on the begining of each record ;
enter sequential number of the targer instead of [xxx];
remove word "Name=";
end result:
Target[023].Type=Hangar2
use X=-722.15 Y=-1312.6 data to make line "Target[023].Offset=-722.15,-1312.6" - end result:
Target[023].Offset=-722.15,-1312.6
use "Rotation=270" data to make line "Target[023].Heading=270"- end result:
Target[023].Heading=270
delete rest of the lines from the records
and so on.....
Target[024].Type=Hangar3
Target[024].Offset=602.239,223.195
Target[024].Heading=270
This is how to change it. With Notepad "Find and replace" not too much sweat, I hope. OK one may say ... let us see something done then. Time permiting something perhaps will be, but for now this is just to show the method which IMHO is pretty solid. There is more though. It is not just to make it all anew. This could be the "first truss" of the bridge to most of the FS airport sceneries. TBC.... 
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#2039432 - 10/05/05 09:23 PM
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Polak,
This is a Great Find! I do it the "Ole' fashioned" way. By hand editing them. I've been advocating a Tool for Target placement. It would have to read the TargetType.ini and "Base" Target.ini to generate and compile a "Target.ini". Location of Targets can be located by something much like the Mission Editor. Once this is done, Then you'll have a "Base Target.ini". Once this is done, a the program could read the Types.ini for the Type of Object to be placed winthin the Locations. Finally, it would compile a Target.ini for the said Terrain.
I'm not a Programer, But this is a Tool We all could use.
Also, Many Geound Objects, like City Buildings, are generic in shape. The only thing is the Textured assigned to it. One can conclude that the Textures can be Hex Edited just like Pilot .bmp's. Thus, one could have Many different Objects just by a matter of Painting using the same type .Lod.
BTW, I have alittle trick to placing Objects. E-Mail Me, and I'll tell you about it.
KB
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#2039433 - 10/05/05 09:37 PM
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Guys, there is perhaps MUCH more than meets the eyes  This method above is just one approach of many, many possibilities ... and resources. Sure it requires some ironing, but eventually maybe the output can be made straight and exactly up to SF:P1 "colors". One thing though I hope WILL become hopefully easier. Making those apron and taxiway skirting lights. Later ....
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#2039434 - 10/05/05 11:58 PM
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#2039440 - 10/09/05 05:03 AM
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In this brief update of this project I finished with footprints and as a checkup I have quickly assembled some fictional cluster structure. As you can see ShelterB length needs some remeasuring, but generally: a. one can obtain from this method quite high precision of object placement, b. it is pretty simple, c. it is pretty fast (25 min for the above), d. finaly and most importantly IT WORKS!  them as efficiently as possible - each component has own damage and destruction model. I also suggest that the concept of Object Libraries be established and developed according to various nature of targets, terrains, timeframe of action, etc. Once that is done and d/loaded, publishing and distribution of new targets could be as simple as posting text add ons to XXXX_TARGET.INI on this forum. 
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#2039443 - 10/09/05 06:13 PM
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Here is target we all can use. Originally I called it Hexagon and thought about is as some HQ of some fictional SuperPower. But on the second look looks just like an ... old state pen. May as well.  Here is a "source" which (if you like it) can be appended to your _TARGETS.INI in any location of your choosing. Target[001].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[001].Offset=.35,99.4
Target[001].Heading=90
Target[002].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[002].Offset=85.75,49.8
Target[002].Heading=150
Target[003].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[003].Offset=-84.95,49.6
Target[003].Heading=30
Target[004].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[004].Offset=.05,-98.4
Target[004].Heading=270
Target[005].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[005].Offset=-85.15,-49.2
Target[005].Heading=330
Target[006].Type=HQBuilding1
Target[006].Offset=85.65,-49
Target[006].Heading=210
Target[007].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[007].Offset=61.15,106
Target[007].Heading=210
Target[008].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[008].Offset=-60.55,106
Target[008].Heading=150
Target[009].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[009].Offset=122.65,.5
Target[009].Heading=270
Target[010].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[010].Offset=-122.35,.5
Target[010].Heading=900
Target[011].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[011].Offset=60.65,-104
Target[011].Heading=330
Target[012].Type=CityBuilding3
Target[012].Offset=-60.85,-105.5
Target[012].Heading=30
Target[013].Type=oiltank1
Target[013].Offset=-.1,.05
Target[013].Heading=90
Target[014].Type=watertower1
Target[014].Offset=0,0
Target[014].Heading=90
Target[015].Type=ShelterA
Target[015].Offset=-.05,45.6
Target[015].Heading=180
Target[016].Type=ShelterA
Target[016].Offset=37.65,-24.6
Target[016].Heading=300
Target[017].Type=ShelterA
Target[017].Offset=39.05,22.95
Target[017].Heading=240
Target[018].Type=ShelterA
Target[018].Offset=-37.85,23.7
Target[018].Heading=120
Target[019].Type=ShelterA
Target[019].Offset=-38.35,-22.4
Target[019].Heading=60
Target[020].Type=ShelterA
Target[020].Offset=-.05,27.4
Target[020].Heading=90
Target[021].Type=ShelterA
Target[021].Offset=.25,-26.3
Target[021].Heading=270
Target[022].Type=ShelterA
Target[022].Offset=22.05,-15.6
Target[022].Heading=210
Target[023].Type=ShelterA
Target[023].Offset=23.25,13.8
Target[023].Heading=150
Target[024].Type=ShelterA
Target[024].Offset=-22.45,14.7
Target[024].Heading=30
Target[025].Type=ShelterA
Target[025].Offset=-22.55,-13.2
Target[025].Heading=330
Target[026].Type=Obelisk1
Target[026].Offset=-92.15,.4
Target[026].Heading=90
Target[027].Type=Obelisk1
Target[027].Offset=-45.65,81.9
Target[027].Heading=90
Target[028].Type=Obelisk1
Target[028].Offset=45.35,80.9
Target[028].Heading=90
Target[029].Type=Obelisk1
Target[029].Offset=92.35,-.1
Target[029].Heading=90
Target[030].Type=Obelisk1
Target[030].Offset=44.35,-79.1
Target[030].Heading=90
Target[031].Type=Obelisk1
Target[031].Offset=-45.65,-79.6
Target[031].Heading=90
Target[032].Type=ShelterA
Target[032].Offset=.25,-44.3
Target[032].Heading=0.1
and here is the pic: 
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#2039445 - 10/22/05 02:41 AM
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Pararel to today Bunyap's  effort to provide you with targets to play with, I have too made some advances with FSSC adapatation as SF:P1 Target Placer Tool. As you perhaps can see above I have updated one of the earlier shot with latest small project which is some fictional industrial site counting approx over 150 elements. All stock and fully destroyable so some bombing excercise could arranged here too. Thanks to some progress in pretty quick, however still very "manual" FSSC->SF:P1 conversion method, this project took me no more than few hours to complete. I am off to try to place the background polygons with the site layout - it should look tad better when done.
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#2039446 - 10/22/05 02:56 AM
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