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#2477838 - 03/24/08 04:27 PM New Screen  
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#2477893 - 03/24/08 05:34 PM Re: New Screen [Re: phant]  
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Excellent. The concrete textures in the last shot look amazing, the sort of thing you'd expect in a first person game. The look reminds me more than a bit of Stalker tbh.


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#2477931 - 03/24/08 06:13 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Mogster]  
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it is amazing the amount of effort being spent on it - it will require a beast of a PC to run it on a complex dense scenario.

#2478191 - 03/24/08 11:45 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Nice weathering effect on things.


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#2478440 - 03/25/08 08:23 AM Re: New Screen [Re: Corsair8X]  
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First of all thanks to everyone who is contributing so much time to mod this (and other) flightsims.

These new textures and 3d models really emhance the sim.

It is my opinion however that the textures while nice are a bit overdone. The grass should be a bit more evencoloured... It's difficult to find a good balance between right and overdone.

And I don't have exact info on the top pic, but if it is the runway you can just see on the left, then the lightposts are way too close. If it is just a taxi way, fine.

Koriel out

#2478764 - 03/25/08 06:34 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Koriel]  
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Looks very 'westernish' ....

#2478812 - 03/25/08 07:49 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Sim]  
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I actually think it feels Eastern and current. Maybe I say that because it looks a bit austere and badly maintained, yes I know that's a stereotype but.....

It looks excellent within the limits of what can be achieved with current gfx tech and PC hardware. My only concern is the huge amount of work needed to populate the whole map with this level of detail.


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#2479116 - 03/26/08 02:12 AM Re: New Screen [Re: Mogster]  
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Funny thing is, there are mods out there that will make LOMAC almost exactly that. They were created by the same people ED has working on these same things in BS. The really amazing detail, IMO, is in the new models. Those are like an order of magnitude better than the ones in Lock On.

In both cases you can see the original LOMAC lineage. Everything just looks better and more "lived in". There is a lot more going on at the air bases. The textures look better, especially from the vantage point you'd have in the Ka-50.


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#2479162 - 03/26/08 03:36 AM Re: New Screen [Re: RedTiger]  
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 Originally Posted By: RedTiger
The textures look better, especially from the vantage point you'd have in the Ka-50.
Good point; just like better terrain textures, better airbase textures are very important in a helicopter sim.

#2479771 - 03/26/08 08:41 PM Re: New Screen [Re: RedTiger]  
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 Originally Posted By: RedTiger
Funny thing is, there are mods out there that will make LOMAC almost exactly that. They were created by the same people ED has working on these same things in BS. The really amazing detail, IMO, is in the new models. Those are like an order of magnitude better than the ones in Lock On.

In both cases you can see the original LOMAC lineage. Everything just looks better and more "lived in". There is a lot more going on at the air bases. The textures look better, especially from the vantage point you'd have in the Ka-50.


From the screens available the textures do look better than the sim-mod stuff for Lock On. As you say its an incremental increase but an easily visible one.


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#2479936 - 03/27/08 12:17 AM Re: New Screen [Re: Mogster]  
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DAMN YOU ED!!! GIVE ME THIS SIM NOW!!! Looks great. Stop teasing ED lol.


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#2480918 - 03/28/08 10:05 AM Re: New Screen [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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 Originally Posted By: Thomas DW
it is amazing the amount of effort being spent on it - it will require a beast of a PC to run it on a complex dense scenario.


Agreed


Does anyone know the reccommended PC spec for this game yet? Failing that do we have any beta testers here that could post their PC spec?

The minimum spec previously reported seems way off for what we are seeing in teasers.

Im due for a PC upgrade and would like it to match a healthy framerate on this game \:\)

#2481170 - 03/28/08 04:58 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]  
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For practical minimum requirements, I would suggest you have 2GB of RAM and a 256MB video card. Any modern CPU should be fine, but of course the faster, the better. Black Shark will run on much less, but the more densely packed scenes, especially combined with the 3D cockpit, eat up memory very quickly and need a greater chunk of CPU power to run smoothly, as compared with FC.


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#2481205 - 03/28/08 05:41 PM Re: New Screen [Re: EvilBivol-1]  
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Why do so many publishers use video memory as their criterion for GPU requirements? I know it's a simple thing to state, but it's not indicative of GPU performance.

EvilBivol, can you suggest a minimum GPU and recommended GPU? 7900-series? 8800? 9800? I can get an nVidia 6200LE with 256MB of memory for less than $30, and there is no question that card is a complete and utter piece of garbage. Please give us useful criteria.

#2481233 - 03/28/08 06:15 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Joe]  
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I remember when LOFC was released how my PC struggled to cope with it - I have a Core 2 Duo 2.4, 4 GB RAM and a 8800GTX and a RAID 0 2x HD , that would be my recommended settings for it.

#2481264 - 03/28/08 07:17 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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EvilBivol, can you suggest a minimum GPU and recommended GPU? 7900-series? 8800? 9800? I can get an nVidia 6200LE with 256MB of memory for less than $30, and there is no question that card is a complete and utter piece of garbage. Please give us useful criteria.

Sorry, but that is beyond my competency level. Honestly, I just don't know enough about video cards to say. Maybe another tester can help, or you can wait for official reqs to be released.

Here's what our DCS FAQ says:
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Q: What are DCS: Black Shark minimum specifications?
A: Although not final, we project the minimum specification to be as follows: CPU: 2 GHz; RAM: 1 GB; Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce FX with 256 MB of RAM / ATI Radeon X1300 with 256 MB of RAM or equivalent; 3 GB free HD space; Operating system: Windows XP SP2 and Vista with DirectX 9 or 10.

I'm running Black Shark on a 128MB 6600GT, 1GB RAM, Athlon64 3200 - probably what you would consider a low end machine today. It works with low-medium settings, but has a hard time keeping up. I am looking for an upgrade. So, you might consider those to be approximate minimum requirements. Personally, I can't say much more than that. We emphasize system and video RAM, because the dense cities, the 3d pit and models quickly load up the memory with objects and textures.

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#2481436 - 03/28/08 11:49 PM Re: New Screen [Re: Colonel_Kurtz]  
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 Originally Posted By: Colonel_Kurtz
Does anyone know the reccommended PC spec for this game yet? Failing that do we have any beta testers here that could post their PC spec?

I'm running the last beta on my 3 year old Alienware. Systems specs for that:

P4 3.4 GHz
2MB RAM
NVidia 6800 PCIe (256MB)

I'm running on MEDIUM settings, with a few of the settings set to HIGH. I get fluid framerates as long as there aren't too many AI entities on the map..which is fine for me right now because I'm still learning how to fly this thing!



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I'm due for a PC upgrade and would like it to match a healthy framerate on this game \:\)

I'll be upgrading before the full-on release of BS too. I want to enjoy it to its maximum potential..and my 3 year old system is getting a bit long in the tooth. And I don't think I'm disclosing too much information when I say that Black Shark is un-freakin' believable as far as flight dynamics and systems. You guys are gonna be amazed.



BeachAV8R

PS - If anyone wants to send me a quad-core CPU with a Radeon 3870 or something..I'll send you my mailing address. I can guarantee I'll put it to good use.. ;\)



#2481562 - 03/29/08 03:10 AM Re: New Screen [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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the test will come when you try to run it like this (12 pages x8 groups of ground units and ships and 3 pages x8 aircraft)

\:D

#2481609 - 03/29/08 04:54 AM Re: New Screen [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Damn Thomas..it looks like you went and started a WAR! \:D



#2481649 - 03/29/08 07:27 AM Re: New Screen [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Thanks Beach, that answered my question. I think they should raise the min spec in their media release otherwise there will be some dissapointed buyers i think, having a forced upgrade. I know from experience its very annoying when you purchase a $90 game and are presented with a slide show even though you meet the min spec.

Im buying it anyhow \:\)

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