New addons available for IL46 http://www.simnetwork.com/oscommerce/index.php?manufacturers_id=34


This post was only posted to show whats available for this Sim in the Market.

Eh!

Sons of Bs selling AAA Mods...

Cheers

Nico

$26 (each!) for CD's of campaigns and skins?? Have they not heard of Mission4Today?

FWIW, I didn't notice any of them selling AAA mods. Where did you see that VB? /edit/ Hmmm.. that "Crete" disk's screenshots looks a lot like vol's Italy-Africa-Greece map... Damn.

If it's true I somehow find this kind of funny.

Seems to originate from these guys, The WWIIes team:
http://www.wwiies.com/index.php?idioma=ing&pag=inicio

I dont think its legal to sell mods is it but they call it expansions?
Anyway, anyone tried any of this out, maybe its really high quality?
Im just curious.

World War II Expansions Simulators
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Our products include only mission files, video, desktop wallpapers, and pdf files which have been created directly and exclusively by members of the World War II Expansions Simulators. Our product are not expansions, are campaigns and missions packs.

Other file types such as “skins” included in the mission package, have been created by different people authorizing their use in our products.

World War II Expansion Simulators don't modify the game and we don't include patch (official or not), maps or “MOD" for the simulator in our products.

All our packages only need the official “patch” 4.08m, with the exception of the missions “Crete 1941” and “Battle of Britain 1940: Conquest or Freedom” which need the Mediterranean Sea Map and The Battle of England map created by their respective authors, who also have authorized their use in our products.

World War II Expansions Simulators is a Spanish trademark duly registered, and all our packages are legally registered protecting the intellectual property rights at an international level.

Regards.

E. Gómez
World War II Expansions Simulators
www.wwiies.com

Sounds good to me!

By the way, it's legal to do ANYTHING unless the kind folks at AAA have made it illegal to do so. Since AAA are modifying copywritten code and materials... I uh, don't think they have any way to protect themselves.

Look at it this way, folks...

Since most of you are arm chair quarterbacks, just consider it thusly: You are paying $27 or so for other people's time and effort in creating campaigns and stuff for the game you like.

I'll just say that I support WWIES 100%. Ernesto isn't selling the mods - he's selling mission and campaigns that just so happen to use some mods. The 'Battle of Britain - Conquest or Freedom' uses my beta Channel map, but he's not selling the actual map. What you get is lots and lots of really excellent missions and campaigns. Yes, you can download missions from many different sites for free, but there's also no harm in buying a set of missions that some has worked really hard to produce.

Joe

The irony is very funny. Even if its not true.

~Flatlander

Considering the amount of time and effort even one well-crafted mission requires, I'm not averse to paying for campaigns, singles, or co-ops, especially if they come with skins.

That said, once you start accepting money, you'd better provide a first-class product. Given the high standard of many of the missions and campaigns already available at Mission4Today, a payware package had better be very good, indeed.

Perhaps WWIIES could provide a couple of sample missions, so prospective customers can examine the goods first?

I'm wondering if that $85 I spent for a Non Theraputic massage was worth it?
Hmmm.

Perspective.

As long as they are missions that do not specifically add a mod to the game then I don't see a problem with it.

But....

1C and Ubisoft have not endorsed nor authorized the modding of this game under any circumstances. I suppose that 1C and Ubi probably figure that trying to track down and clobber every individual that releases free mods to the game would be counterproductive and would in the long run hurt the sale of future products.

If someone tries to sell a mod for the game, or even an add on that specifically needs a mod to work then the sellers had better watch out. I don't think Ubi would stand on the sidelines and allow that for very long.

and people wonder why i want to chop off these peoples hands at the wrist

Certainly seems cut and dry. If you don't use the Mods then don't purchase the Crete and BoB scenarios.

However looking at the World War II Expansions Simulators site grau. Am I just not looking in the right place where a statement saying these Mods are required to run the expansions is located?

Tip

Damn! I missed scamming you all with the campaigns and missions I put on M4T and Flying Legends. Trouble is, I suspect that any money I'm 'owed' is payable to the various skinners whose work I included. (Btw 'Against Overwhelming Odds' took me over a year to make (detailed research takes time) and cost me approx. £100 in books.)

Canon, I hope that you were paid for your map; after all, we all paid Oleg for the ones he released with the game. Someone else making money from something you've provided for free stinks IMO.

Making mods for pleasure and free for all is one thing but selling them is completely another. I am not thinking about "who did it, and who sells it"; but legal wise way.


IF the mods are included in those packages in first place, but I am really hoping that is not the case.

WWIIES does NOT include or sell the mods. They sell mission and campaign packs, the way dozens of small companies do. The only link to the mods is that two of the discs contain missions made for two Mod maps. But I say again - WWIIES are NOT selling or including any mods. At all.

If Canon says it's ok, it's ok with me.

Then we can only wish them good luck (in a positive way)