#4052358 - 12/17/14 10:56 PM
Where Did They Go?
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Phil S
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Phil S
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Well I finally upgraded to a System7 (64) and with this event, I am reinstalling both BMS 4.32 and Falcon AF. In both regards, I need the following help to locate what has become unconnected and apparent unrecoverable links:
1) Falcon BMS:
A) Where can the various theaters? I eventually found PMC, but was surprised by the cost of each theater download from Korea128, Israel to Desert Storm.
I do have the latest update, Aeyes Cockpit and HiTiles.
B) Falcon AF:
I have the last official LeadPursuit upgrade as well as the Hitiles. Where can I find a cockpit payload? Do the BMS theaters work in Falcon AF? Where can I find an "executable" installation of the 'Skunkworks' Mod. An excellent creation for which I have only found a download (169Mb) of an un-installable file.
Thank you for any assistance
Last edited by 5555; 12/18/14 03:00 AM.
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#4052471 - 12/18/14 03:30 AM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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schnidrman
Jason Schneider
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Jason Schneider
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1.A - http://www.benchmarksims.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?32-Theater-Discussion Open each theater topic and look for the downloads for each theater. Some are WIP or beta testing and not released yet. http://falcon-online.org Here you can download Sinai, Battle for Balkans*, and Red Flag (Korea) *currently unavailable due to pending update, rumored to be released around x-mas. B - Falcon AF is pretty much dead. Skunkworks and HiTiles is about all you can add here I'm afraid. Fun and stable, but not much (if any) online play going on there. It is also far behind in just about every aspect, when compared to BMS, as a Sim. Try this for skunkworks mod - http://www.moddb.com/downloads/skunkworks-modHTH - schnidrman
Last edited by schnidrman; 12/18/14 03:34 AM.
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#4053540 - 12/20/14 03:57 AM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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Jason Schneider
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Jason Schneider
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I recognize that AF might be 'dead', but it remains a personal old favorite. I completely understand, and only recommend BMS if you enjoy the much improved realism that BMS brings to F4. I felt the same way as yourself a couple of years ago, when another poster on this thread kept helping me along with AF but kept insisting that, if I flew BMS, I wouldn't bother with AF any longer. Short story: He was right... Thanks Ice! For my own tastes, it's the flight model and the way the jet handles itself vs. AF, and the clickable 3D cockpit, and learning more realistic weapons deployment procedures, etc. etc. etc. All in all, it doesn't get much more real than BMS. That being said, AF has better campaign management, but campaign modes in most of the BMS theaters do work and are winnable in both SP and MP. So in a nutshell, if your going to get serious, get BMS. If your just passing time, enjoy AF for it's rock solid stability (BMS, with a vanilla install w/ update 7 is also very stable) and fantastic campaign management. I don't know if there are any active links out there for skunkworks any longer, the link I posted was the most current one I could find, but maybe someone has the file and can share it. schnidrman
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#4053612 - 12/20/14 11:18 AM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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- Ice
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Don't get me wrong, I loved AF. I "missed the boat" with Falcon 4.0 so I grabbed AF when I found it. I learned most of what I know via AF. As I was flying without TrackIR, I concentrated on A-G roles as that needed less head-on-a-swivel work. When I got a TrackIR, I found it a pain to be switching from 2D mode to view gauges and work the cockpit and then switching to 3D mode to look at the outside world. I had that bound to my HOTAS but it was an immersion killer. Even if BMS was exactly the same as AF or even lacking in the campaign department, I would go to BMS simply for the increased immersion of the fully-clickable, all-gauges-working 3D cockpit. You NEVER need the 2D cockpit again! schnidrman, you're welcome and I'm glad you're enjoying your time in BMS!
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#4053864 - 12/21/14 12:26 AM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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Are you using Win8? I know I ran AF on my Win7 machine before BMS came around.
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#4055169 - 12/23/14 10:15 PM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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pthighs
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One simple thing to try: Try installing FalconAF to a directory not under c:\program files. Security changes in Windows from Vista onwards can sometimes thwart older programs written in the pre-Vista era. One more complicated thing: It sounds like the app when launched is reporting a previous crash. Since you have removed everything from the file system, there's a good chance that FalconAF is looking in the registry. If you are not aware, the registry is a central location on Windows where programs read and write information for later retrieval. There is an easy way to see where this guy is looking: 1) Download ProcessMonitor from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb8966452) Extract the zip file to some directory on your machine and launch ProcMon.exe 3) Launch FalconAF 4) ProcMon will show every file access, registry access, and a bunch of other stuff that a given process on your machine is doing. Just look for FalconAF.exe (or whatever the .exe file for Falcon AF is called) to see what it is doing right before it pops up the dialog. If you can post a screenshot or report of what this shows for Falcon AF I may be able to help you further. For example, if it's looking in the registry we can remove the key that tells it there was a previous crash.
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#4056054 - 12/25/14 08:15 PM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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F4AF is quite compatible with win7 I run it without probs.. Maybe the old "movie file missing codecs causing crash" problem? Might be worth a try to rename the "movies" dir.
Last edited by Schwalbe; 12/25/14 08:16 PM.
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#4056489 - 12/27/14 02:44 PM
Re: Where Did They Go?
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Ed_1
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F4AF is quite compatible with win7 I run it without probs.. Maybe the old "movie file missing codecs causing crash" problem? Might be worth a try to rename the "movies" dir. ^1+ F4:AF was coded on win7 builds so for sure it should work with that OS.
Last edited by Ed_1; 12/27/14 02:45 PM.
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